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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:09:05 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #892 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Tue, 9 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 892 Today's Topics: 2m/11m crossband QSO: legal? CALL SIGNS ON MARINE VHF Charging gel cells CQ Delaware, Maine, New Mexico Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 08 August Get Teslafied! Help! How to Improve my CW Speed? INFO WANTED: RF spectrum analyzers N Connector on 9913-What about Foil? Which code learning method? Why? WWW - Shortwave & Radio Catalog of Hypermedia Links #9 (includes MUF/LUF charts) Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 02:13:18 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!linley@decwrl.dec.com Subject: 2m/11m crossband QSO: legal? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Thanks to all who replied. Judging by the number of responses over a 24 hr period, I seem to have pressed a hot button with a lot of people. I read 97.111 (Authorized Transmissions) and 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions) and then posted my question because I didn't see non-emergency cross-service communications specifically allowed or disallowed. Anyway, I will look for other solutions. I just wish I could inspire my dad to want to get his ticket. -- Bruce James Robert Linley ---- linley@netcom.com ---- Amateur radio: KE6EQZ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "This is glue. Strong stuff." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Aug 94 19:54:50 EST From: news.his.com!his.com@uunet.uu.net Subject: CALL SIGNS ON MARINE VHF To: info-hams@ucsd.edu T> Once I get my ham license from the FCC which call signs do I use when T>using the marine band VHF on my boat?Should I use the call sign I was T>issued when I registered the radio or should I use the call sign that the T>FCC will be sending me for amateur radio use?Thanx in advance. The former. Use the appropriate call for the frequency you're on. If you use your ham call on a marine frequency you'll be operating out of band (i.e., illegally ...), & v.v. /Paul - W3PH ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 94 01:58:11 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Charging gel cells To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hi Mark, How are things at old PU? (I'm assuming that you are the same Mark Connor that was there in ATMS when I worked there.) I don't have a specific answer to your question, but I might know where you can find one. The back issues of Home Power magazine are archived at the FTP site sunsite.unc.edu somewhere under /pub/academic/environment/alternative-energy/energy-resources. HP has lots of good info on batteries, solar power, wind power, etc. Most of the people that write for HP are hams, and much of the info is useful to hams that are interested emergency power. Keith Lingwall, KB5NSD kb5nsd@bangate.compaq.com Network Server Manager Compaq Computer Corp. Houston, TX *** Not an official spokesman for Compaq Computer Corp. *** >Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:53:32 GMT >From: mozo.cc.purdue.edu!rain!mconner@purdue.edu >Subject: Charging gel cells >To: info-hams@ucsd.edu > >I am looking for some info on charging gel cells. At what point >should you recharge the cell (drop to what voltage), and how do you >tell when the cell is fully charged? I put my cell on the charger >when it dropped to 11.6V, and monitored the voltage while charging. >The cell came back up to 13V fairly quickly, and after 2-3 hours the >The cell came back up to 13V fairly quickly, and after 2-3 hours the >charge current was down to about 70 mA. Since I was going to bed, I >disconnected the charger rather than leaving it on all night. Is >there a voltage or current threshold for determining when the battery >is fully charged? The cell has a 7Ah rating. > >-- >Mark D. Conner - N9XTN Opinions expressed here are >Dept. of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences not necessarily those of the >Purdue Univ., W. Lafayette IN 47907 Government, DoD, Purdue, or >mconner@rain.atms.purdue.edu the author. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 10:26:31 -0700 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!overload.lbl.gov!dancer.ca.sandia.gov!cronkite.nersc.gov!fastrac.llnl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!apple.com!kip-109.apple.com!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: CQ Delaware, Maine, New Mexico To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hi all- I need Delaware, Maine, and New Mexico for Worked All States (WAS) on 20 meters. Anybody in these three states interested in helping? Mail me with sked info for either 20 phone (14.175 on up), or 20 Pactor. These days I hang around 14.074 on Pactor after about 2000 PDT (when the kids are in bed). Any help greatly appreciated! 73- Bob Martin N6MZV * rtm @newton.apple.com Apple Computer Inc * 408-974-4700 1 Infinite Loop MS 38-PAT * N6MZV @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM Cupertino, CA 95014 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 06:29:01 MDT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 08 August To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY 08 AUGUST, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 08 AUGUST, 1994 ---------------------------------------------------------- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 220, 08/08/94 10.7 FLUX=073.8 90-AVG=079 SSN=018 BKI=2010 0101 BAI=002 BGND-XRAY=A1.8 FLU1=9.9E+05 FLU10=1.5E+04 PKI=1000 1112 PAI=002 BOU-DEV=***,004,005,004,002,005,002,005 DEV-AVG=003 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= B2.0 @ 0914UT XRAY-MIN= A1.6 @ 2353UT XRAY-AVG= A2.4 NEUTN-MAX= +001% @ 2345UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2045UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.2% PCA-MAX= +0.0DB @ 2025UT PCA-MIN= -0.1DB @ 2355UT PCA-AVG= -0.1DB BOUTF-MAX=55229NT @ 1328UT BOUTF-MIN=55194NT @ 1737UT BOUTF-AVG=55216NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+085,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+129NT@ 1951UT GOES6-MIN=N:-026NT@ 2234UT G6-AVG=+113,+029,-006 FLUXFCST=STD:075,075,075;SESC:075,075,075 BAI/PAI-FCST=005,020,020/007,015,020 KFCST=1222 3221 3344 5333 27DAY-AP=003,004 27DAY-KP=1100 1212 2010 1122 WARNINGS= ALERTS= !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 07 AUG 94 was 33.0. The Full Kp Indices for 07 AUG 94 are: 0+ 0o 1o 0+ 1+ 1o 1o 1+ The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 07 AUG 94 are: 2 1 4 2 5 4 4 5 Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 08 AUG is: 4.7E+06 SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY -------------------- Solar activity continued very low. Region 7762 (N05W10), the sole spotted region, was quiet and stable. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be very low. The geomagnetic field was quiet. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be quiet for another day. A recurrent disturbance, likely related to a coronal hole, is due August 10. Event probabilities 09 aug-11 aug Class M 01/01/01 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 09 aug-11 aug A. Middle Latitudes Active 10/40/40 Minor Storm 05/20/20 Major-Severe Storm 01/10/10 B. High Latitudes Active 15/50/50 Minor Storm 10/30/30 Major-Severe Storm 01/10/10 HF propagation conditions have remained normal. Normal conditions will continue through 09 August inclusive. On 10 or 11 August, a recurrent disturbance may produce minor signal degradation over the high and polar latitude paths. Some middle latitude night-sector circuits could also be affected on 11 August. Otherwise, near-normal propagation will continue. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 08/2400Z AUGUST --------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7762 N05W10 112 0100 CSO 07 008 BETA REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 09 AUGUST TO 11 AUGUST NMBR LAT LO 7757 N12 333 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 08 AUGUST, 1994 ----------------------------------------------------- A. ENERGETIC EVENTS: BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NONE POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 08 AUGUST, 1994 --------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO EVENTS OBSERVED INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 08/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 07 Aug: 0031 0034 0037 B1.0 0039 0042 0044 B1.0 1805 1807 1810 SF 7762 N04E07 1932 1939 1947 B1.3 SF 7762 N05E06 1954 2001 2008 B2.4 SF 7762 N04E06 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7762: 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 003 (60.0) Uncorrellated: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 002 (40.0) Total Events: 005 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:14:21 -0500 From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net Subject: Get Teslafied! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Calling all Telsaheads and would-be Teslaheads! Did you know H. G. Wells' "The Time Machine" was inspired by the eccentric genius and inventor Nikola Tesla? Or that he remained a virgin until his death (probably why he was such a prolific inventor!)? Learn about the egocentric man behind the inventions. The new book TESLA by Tad Wise is available to you for free IF you correctly answer trivia questions on Nikola Tesla. HEY ALL YOU Twisted Trivia BUFFS...come check us out, eMail tdc@netcom.com. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 1994 16:28:18 GMT From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!news2.near.net!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc.harvard.edu!isr.harvard.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu Subject: Help! How to Improve my CW Speed? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I posted my article a couple of days ago, and Jim, WA6SDN, thought that it was a joke. I just wanted to let everyone know that it is not a joke, and that I am dead serious! I will summarize my question again. I am having difficulty going over 30 WPM. I can copy solid at 25 WPM. I suspect that one of my problems might be that I can not "copy behind" or "copy in my head." I know that these skills are important, but I am not sure how I can develop them when I operate under the heavy QRM, QRN, and QSB. The band conditions have been very unfavorable lately, and I tend to write down everything so that I can figure out what is sent later even if I miss some letters here and there. I should also add that I do not have my own rig. I only use the rig of my radio club, and I use it only once a week. So the overall situation is not very favorable, either. I am still working very hard to improve my CW speed, and managed to reach 25 WPM level a couple of months ago, but I guess I then hit a plateau. If anybody (either experienced or non-experienced, hams or non-hams) has any suggestions or advice for my improving CW speed, I will be truly grateful. My E-mail address is ys@isr.harvard.edu. Thanks. 73, Yuzuru Suzuki, AA1JA ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:25:23 GMT From: news.sprintlink.net!tequesta.gate.net!inca.gate.net!optronic@uunet.uu.net Subject: INFO WANTED: RF spectrum analyzers To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Could anyone direct me to an article on building or company which sells RF spectrum analyzers for the budget minded Ham enthusiast. I would like to connect to a PC eventually, but for now I would take anything. Thanks, either e-mail or posts appreciated. 73 \ Bob B. \ Orlando, FL \ KE4PGM \ optronic@gate.net \ -------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 1994 18:12:02 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu!levine@network.ucsd.edu Subject: N Connector on 9913-What about Foil? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article 1n1o@st6000.sct.edu, jotterso@sct.edu (Jeffrey Otterson) writes: -->All the 9913 that I've used had the foil bonded to the outside of the -->"tube" part of the coax. Just leave it there. --> -->Tell your friend to be aware that you need a special N connector for -->9913, it has a larger hole in the center pin to accept the larger center -->conductor... --> -->73 de n1kdo --> --> Unless you are using the new 2 piece N-connectors which have a center pin sufficient for 9913. The new 2 piece N connectors have the pin already attached to the housing. You solder through a hole in the pin to attach the center conductor to the pin, then solder through the body holes to connect the shield to the body, like a standard PL-259. They are great. --- ------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Levine KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN formerly KA1JFP levine@mc.com <--Internet email Phone(508) 256-1300 x247 kd1gg@wa1phy.ma <--Packet Mail FAX(508) 256-3599 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 18:03:03 GMT From: gsm001!gsmlrn@uunet.uu.net Subject: Which code learning method? Why? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu David Jenkins (djenkins@jetson.uh.edu) wrote: : I took my Technician written tests Saturday (passed--yay!),: Anyway, here are my questions: should I continue with Farnsworth method? Congratulations, see you on the air in a few months. : If so, what are the recommended speeds for initial learning? Anything OVER 17wpm. That's the "speed of fluency" (the speed where it sounds like one "word" instead of seperate sounds) for most people. I had been trying to learn code for almost 30 years. I had tried all sorts of tapes, programs, etc, finaly I found a package called "Code Quick". With Code Quick, I went from barely 3 words a minute, a 30% score on the 5 wpm test to 100% score and over 2 minutes of perfect copy. If the examiners had kept the door closed to the room (I disctract easily), I would have had close to 100%. This took me about 10 weeks of study and practice. My son (aged 12) is copying 100% at 4wpm and doing fairly well (but not 100%) at 6wpm in 6 weeks. He even likes the code. : Oh, and one last thing: are there better PC Morse learning programs than : Morse Tutor? If so, can you give me titles and possible sources? Thanks for : your help and advice. I really want ot learn code, but like everyone else, I : want to make the process as painless as possible. There is a program that works with code quick (costs extra), it has helped my son with the learning drills and games and helped me with the random words. I found that the best way to pick up speed (for me) is to Jerry Ziliak, KB6MT's, high speed code course (farnsworth speed = 20wpm, starts at 3wpm, at 15wpm it switches to a farnsworth speed of 23 wpm) but I was totaly wasting my time until I took the Code Quick course first. His course is designed to start out with no knowledge, but initialy it did not work for me. For you it may work. Listening to random words and w1aw bullitens also helps. Listening to QSOs rarley does as many novices send code very sloppily and you become frustrated. Always spend some time practicing at a word rate higher than what you can copy. For example, if you can copy at 3wpm, spend some time at 5wpm, if you copy at 5, spend time at 7wpm, etc. Expect to practice at least an hour a day. If you feel that your brain has "fried", or you are stuck, take a break, but spend a total of at least an hour a day. 73, Geoff. -- "I am number six. Others come and others go, but I am always number six." (From the movie "Eminent Domain".) Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ (215) 242-8712 gsm@mendelson.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 11:55:17 -0600 From: news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu Subject: WWW - Shortwave & Radio Catalog of Hypermedia Links #9 (includes MUF/LUF charts) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu ANNOUNCEMENT <a href="http://itre.uncecs.edu/radio/">Shortwave & Radio Catalog</a> Shortwave / Radio Hypertext Catalog on the World Wide Web (WWW) AVAILABLE NOW ISSUE #9 ** NEW: Personal MUF/LUF Propagation Chart Generation ** NEW: Number's Station Info via Mike Chase A catalog of hypertext links to FTP, GOPHER, and WWW files and services for the Shortwave Listener and Radio enthusiast is now on-line. This issue includes links to broadcaster schedules, digital audio files, graphics, mediumwave, shortwave, FM, Ham Radio, FCC, and other files associated with radio. IMPROVED HYPERTEXT FAQS Ralph Brandi's FAQ material in hypertext form has been upgraded and is NOW available on this WWW server! In addition, over 100 hypertext links (and still growing) are listed. These include direct links to Shortwave, AM, and FM broadcasters, Solar reports and images, Free Radio Berkeley, audio files, ham radio info and much more. All these available with a click of your mouse via NCSA's Mosaic (return key for NCSA lynx users). The URL to put in your hotlist/bookmark file: http://itre.uncecs.edu/radio/ ** MUF/LUF ** Maximum Usable Frequency, E-Cutoff a.k.a. Lowest Usable Frequency Charts I have a WWW MUF/LUF tool based on "micromuf.bas" on-line! Fill out your location, transmitter location, and sun-spot info (links to solar info for the day, week and month available from the web page.) and an ASCII, WWW, or even a .GIF MUf/LUF propagation chart graphic file will be returned! Try out this interactive World Wide Web form. Toward the Future If you have a site or know of a site that maintains up-to-date information on radio topics, send me e-mail. If your club would like to participate, (provide program schedules, club events, maintain files on individual broadcasters, etc.), send me e-mail. If you are a radio broadcaster and have internet ftp files, gophers or WWW servers with program schedules, audio-on-demand files, or other information to share, send me e-mail. I am also looking for UNIX software programs that could create propagation information in graphic form (GIF, JPEG, ???) that would be adapted to use WWW forms to send the graphic to the WWW user. If you know of a tool (read free program), send me e-mail. My thanks to Jay Novello for providing his public access WWW server and to Ralph Brandi for providing the FAQ html files! Pete Costello pec@joker.att.com <a href="http://itre.uncecs.edu/radio/">WWW folk click here!</a> -- Peter Costello - pec@joker.att.com All comments that have caused negative outcomes were either done under duress or when temporarily insane, so I'm not responsible for them (or this). Add usual private and corporate disclaimers here: ____________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:05:06 -0400 From: news1.digex.net!access2!bote@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <31lc6h$lm@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, <31thk7$1e3@gopher.cs.uofs.edu>, <327st3$c4m@athos.cc.bellcore.com> Subject : CB's is possessive; CBs is plural CB's is the possessive form. CBs is the plural form. That's why I was confused by the title. -- rec.nude: your exit to good living along the Information Toll Road. finger bote@access.digex.net for PGP key and an operator will help you. Por via del empedrado de informacion. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 21:23:47 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!wang!dbushong@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <327st3$c4m@athos.cc.bellcore.com>, <bote.776459059@access2>, <328o88$7ta@chnews.intel.com>m Subject : Re: CB's is possessive; CBs is plural Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.ch.intel.com writes: >In article <bote.776459059@access2>, >John Boteler <bote@access.digex.net> wrote: >> >>CB's is the possessive form. >>CBs is the plural form. >> >Mr. Webster says: "apostrophe - a mark ' used to indicate the omission >of letters or figures, the possessive case, OR THE PLURAL OF LETTERS OR >FIGURES." We had the same discussion regarding the plural of 73. And to think that people waste their time discussing ham radio-related subjects here. Harrumph. -- Dave Bushong OPEN/image Recognition Products ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 1994 23:00:14 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!dbrown@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Aug9.133027.9422@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <3287n8$dk7@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <1994Aug9.165654.13952@VFL.Paramax.COM> Subject : Re: Car warrantee and 2m radio In article <1994Aug9.165654.13952@VFL.Paramax.COM>, Pete Rossi (rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM) wrote: : In article <3287n8$dk7@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) writes: : > : >1. Since a cellular phone is a two-way radio, I guess people : >who own Toyotas cannot have cell phones in their cars either? : Simple, I bet you that the Toyota people don't classify a cellular phone : as a 2-way radio. Well, there's a slight difference here... Something about the fact that a cellphone is 3 watts max. -- -- Dan Brown dbrown@zeugma.csusb.edu Bill of Rights: RIP, 1994 ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #892 ******************************